Thursday, March 19, 2009
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Chertoff Delayed Federal Response Volconvo Debate Forums
Chertoff delayed federal response, memo shows
By Jonathan S. Landay, Alison Young and Shannon McCaffrey
Knight Ridder Newspapers
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/12637172.htm (link broken)
WASHINGTON - The federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina was Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, not the former FEMA chief who was relieved of his duties and resigned earlier this week, federal documents reviewed by Knight Ridder show.
Even before the storm struck the Gulf Coast, Chertoff could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials. Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown had only limited authority to do so until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm.
Remember, the prez did not authorize an emergency response for Orleans Parish;
Chertoff delayed federal response, memo shows
By Jonathan S. Landay, Alison Young and Shannon McCaffrey
Knight Ridder Newspapers
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/12637172.htm (link broken)
WASHINGTON - The federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina was Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, not the former FEMA chief who was relieved of his duties and resigned earlier this week, federal documents reviewed by Knight Ridder show.
Even before the storm struck the Gulf Coast, Chertoff could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials. Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown had only limited authority to do so until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm.
Remember, the prez did not authorize an emergency response for Orleans Parish;
WSJ: White rich elude Orleans chaos, don't want poor blacks back
WSJ: White rich elude Orleans chaos, dont want poor blacks back "How do they want the city rebuilt?
'The power elite of New Orleans -- whether they are still in the city or have moved temporarily to enclaves such as Destin, Fla., and Vail, Colo. -- insist the remade city won't simply restore the old order. New Orleans before the flood was burdened by a teeming underclass, substandard schools and a high crime rate. The city has few corporate headquarters.
'The new city must be something very different, Mr. Reiss says, with better services and fewer poor people. 'Those who want to see this city rebuilt want to see it done in a completely different way: demographically, geographically and politically,' he says. 'I'm not just speaking for myself here. The way we've been living is not going to happen again, or we're out.'"
'The power elite of New Orleans -- whether they are still in the city or have moved temporarily to enclaves such as Destin, Fla., and Vail, Colo. -- insist the remade city won't simply restore the old order. New Orleans before the flood was burdened by a teeming underclass, substandard schools and a high crime rate. The city has few corporate headquarters.
'The new city must be something very different, Mr. Reiss says, with better services and fewer poor people. 'Those who want to see this city rebuilt want to see it done in a completely different way: demographically, geographically and politically,' he says. 'I'm not just speaking for myself here. The way we've been living is not going to happen again, or we're out.'"
Navy Pilots Who Rescued Victims Are Reprimanded - Volconvo Debate Forums
Navy Pilots Who Rescued Victims Are Reprimanded - Volconvo Debate Forums
See my post number 15 on this page for the presidents list that omits Orleans Parrish:
WhiteHouse.gov http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html(WH WEBSITE SCRUBBED, no longer available)
Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana
The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.
The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn
See my post number 15 on this page for the presidents list that omits Orleans Parrish:
WhiteHouse.gov http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html(WH WEBSITE SCRUBBED, no longer available)
Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana
The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.
The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn
Navy Pilots Who Rescued Victims Are Reprimanded - Volconvo Debate Forums
Navy Pilots Who Rescued Victims Are Reprimanded - Volconvo Debate Forums
Seeing people on the roofs of houses waving to him, Lieutenant Udkow headed in their direction. Hovering over power lines, his crew dropped a basket to pick up two residents at a time. He took them to Lakefront Airport, where local emergency medical teams had established a makeshift medical center.
More......
So it looks like orders from the very top were to ignore pleas for help from the DEMOCRATIC New Orleans. Except for the prisoners, they were rescued before the women and children on rooftops. They can use those criminals for insurgencies and such, to justify military action.
Its obvious why there was a swift response to Biloxi while New Orleans was basically ignored. Our childish president has a resentment:
Harrison County (Biloxi)
George W Bush (R) 38,781 63%
John F. Kerry (D).....22,555 36%
Orleans Parrish
John F. Kerry (D) ......151,686 77%
George W. Bush * (R) 42,760 22%
He attacked Iraq for less. A rabid bush supporter could have breached the levee at a weak point with a few sticks of dynamite, who would notice? They could have been dropped into the water, anyone see footage of the actual break? I am just saying it looks too suspicious, the disparity of rescue responses. It should be investigated. No?
Seeing people on the roofs of houses waving to him, Lieutenant Udkow headed in their direction. Hovering over power lines, his crew dropped a basket to pick up two residents at a time. He took them to Lakefront Airport, where local emergency medical teams had established a makeshift medical center.
More......
So it looks like orders from the very top were to ignore pleas for help from the DEMOCRATIC New Orleans. Except for the prisoners, they were rescued before the women and children on rooftops. They can use those criminals for insurgencies and such, to justify military action.
Its obvious why there was a swift response to Biloxi while New Orleans was basically ignored. Our childish president has a resentment:
Harrison County (Biloxi)
George W Bush (R) 38,781 63%
John F. Kerry (D).....22,555 36%
Orleans Parrish
John F. Kerry (D) ......151,686 77%
George W. Bush * (R) 42,760 22%
He attacked Iraq for less. A rabid bush supporter could have breached the levee at a weak point with a few sticks of dynamite, who would notice? They could have been dropped into the water, anyone see footage of the actual break? I am just saying it looks too suspicious, the disparity of rescue responses. It should be investigated. No?
PERRspectives: FEMA: Florida Election Management Agency
FEMA: Florida Election Management Agency: "Louisiana's Democratic Governor Kathleen Blanco is learning that the hard way. While her state suffered through a disastrous, disorganized and delayed response to Katrina from FEMA and the Bush administration, Florida governor Jeb Bush had no such problems as his state weathered four hurricanes in 2004.
There is no mystery to this discrepancy, as GovExec.com wrote in 'How FEMA Delivered Florida for Bush' on November 3rd, 2004, literally the day after the President won reelection:
Now that President Bush has won Florida in his 2004 re-election bid, he may want to draft a letter of appreciation to Michael Brown, chief of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Seldom has any federal agency had the opportunity to so directly and uniquely alter the course of a presidential election, and seldom has any agency delivered for a president as FEMA did in Florida this fall.
FEMA's preparation, performance and questionable largesse during the four 2004 Florida hurricanes stands in stark contrast with its abysmal failure in New Orleans in the wake of Katrina. While severe, the four Florida hurricanes (Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne) caused under 100 deaths and $22 billion in damage, a fraction of Katrina's destructive force. Yet FEMA's proactive role and President Bush's timely and personal involvement in Florida bear no relation to 2005:Louisiana's Democratic Governor Kathleen Blanco is learning that the hard way. While her state suffered through a disastrous, disorganized and delayed response to Katrina from FEMA and the Bush administration, Florida governor Jeb Bush had no such problems as his state weathered four hurricanes in 2004.
There is no mystery to this discrepancy, as GovExec.com wrote in 'How FEMA Delivered Florida for Bush' on November 3rd, 2004, li"
There is no mystery to this discrepancy, as GovExec.com wrote in 'How FEMA Delivered Florida for Bush' on November 3rd, 2004, literally the day after the President won reelection:
Now that President Bush has won Florida in his 2004 re-election bid, he may want to draft a letter of appreciation to Michael Brown, chief of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Seldom has any federal agency had the opportunity to so directly and uniquely alter the course of a presidential election, and seldom has any agency delivered for a president as FEMA did in Florida this fall.
FEMA's preparation, performance and questionable largesse during the four 2004 Florida hurricanes stands in stark contrast with its abysmal failure in New Orleans in the wake of Katrina. While severe, the four Florida hurricanes (Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne) caused under 100 deaths and $22 billion in damage, a fraction of Katrina's destructive force. Yet FEMA's proactive role and President Bush's timely and personal involvement in Florida bear no relation to 2005:Louisiana's Democratic Governor Kathleen Blanco is learning that the hard way. While her state suffered through a disastrous, disorganized and delayed response to Katrina from FEMA and the Bush administration, Florida governor Jeb Bush had no such problems as his state weathered four hurricanes in 2004.
There is no mystery to this discrepancy, as GovExec.com wrote in 'How FEMA Delivered Florida for Bush' on November 3rd, 2004, li"
Fleeing Evacuees Blocked, Town Stands By Decision - Volconvo Debate Forums
Fleeing Evacuees Blocked, Town Stands By Decision - Volconvo Debate Forums: "Looks like another bush/FEMA (purposeful) error. From the last paragraph in the article:
Quote:
Then they learned that New Orleans officials had told the thousands trapped in that city's downtown,............ to cross to Gretna.
The Gretna Sherriffs were rising up in opposition to FEMA evac? Oh thats right FEMA wasnt authorized by Resident bush in the Official Emergency Statement to operate in neither Orleans Parish (New Orleans), nor Jefferson Parish (Gretna).
FEMA didnt finally show up until, what? 10 FUCKING DAYS LATER?
Its not negligent homicide, they WANT to kill black democrats.
78% of New Orleans voted against bush and they have paid for it, in spades"
Quote:
Then they learned that New Orleans officials had told the thousands trapped in that city's downtown,............ to cross to Gretna.
The Gretna Sherriffs were rising up in opposition to FEMA evac? Oh thats right FEMA wasnt authorized by Resident bush in the Official Emergency Statement to operate in neither Orleans Parish (New Orleans), nor Jefferson Parish (Gretna).
FEMA didnt finally show up until, what? 10 FUCKING DAYS LATER?
Its not negligent homicide, they WANT to kill black democrats.
78% of New Orleans voted against bush and they have paid for it, in spades"
Think Progress » BREAKING: Brown Falsely Smears Blanco Under Oath
Think Progress » BREAKING: Brown Falsely Smears Blanco Under Oath: "ok - but WHY? - “why did the president’s federal emergency assistance declaration of August 27th not include the parishes of Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines?” (Buyer)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050827-1.html
…the governor included those parishes - WHY DIDN’T THE WHITE HOUSE???
WHY?"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050827-1.html
…the governor included those parishes - WHY DIDN’T THE WHITE HOUSE???
WHY?"
BELLACIAO - Cynthia McKinney censored in congressional record- Is someone afraid of the word IMPEACHMENT? - Rep. Cynthia McKinney
BELLACIAO - Cynthia McKinney censored in congressional record- Is someone afraid of the word IMPEACHMENT? - Rep. Cynthia McKinney
But before that I am going to mention what Mayor Nagin in a wonderfully compelling interview with WWL said when he had the opportunity to speak directly with President Bush. He said, "I told him we had an incredible crisis here and that his flying over in Air Force One does not do it justice, and that I have been all around this city, and I am very frustrated because we are not able to marshal resources and we are outmanned in just about every respect.’’
But in perhaps the most compelling of all of the interviews that we have seen, and these are all available on the Internet, is Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish, on Meet the Press. He said, "Sir, they were told, like me, every single day the cavalry is coming on the Federal level, the cavalry is coming, the cavalry is coming, the cavalry is coming. I have just begun to hear the hooves of the cavalry. The cavalry is still not out here yet, but I have begun to hear the hooves, and we are almost a week out.’’
Then he gives three quick examples, one of the Wal-Mart delivery trucks, three trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel. It was docked in Jefferson Parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come and get the fuel right away. When we got there with our trucks, they got the word. FEMA says, `Don’t give the fuel.’ Yesterday, yesterday FEMA comes in and cuts all our communication lines.’’ Why is FEMA cutting communications?
"The guy who runs the building I am in, Emergency Management,’’ this is Aaron Broussard on Meet the Press, "he is responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard Nursing Home, and every day she called him and said, `Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?’ He said, `Yeah, mama, somebody is coming to get you.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Tuesday.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Wednesday.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Thursday.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Friday.’ And she drowned Friday night.’’
[Time: 18:45]
And she drowned Friday night. "Nobody is coming to get us. Nobody is coming to get us. The Secretary has promised. Everybody has promised. They have had press conferences. I’m sick of the press conferences. For God’s sake, just shut up and send us somebody.’’ Aaron Broussard.
Want the facts? The FEMA chief waited 5 hours after Katrina made landfall on August 29. Five hours.
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McKinney lays out a detailed protest against FEMA response on this page!!!
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But before that I am going to mention what Mayor Nagin in a wonderfully compelling interview with WWL said when he had the opportunity to speak directly with President Bush. He said, "I told him we had an incredible crisis here and that his flying over in Air Force One does not do it justice, and that I have been all around this city, and I am very frustrated because we are not able to marshal resources and we are outmanned in just about every respect.’’
But in perhaps the most compelling of all of the interviews that we have seen, and these are all available on the Internet, is Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish, on Meet the Press. He said, "Sir, they were told, like me, every single day the cavalry is coming on the Federal level, the cavalry is coming, the cavalry is coming, the cavalry is coming. I have just begun to hear the hooves of the cavalry. The cavalry is still not out here yet, but I have begun to hear the hooves, and we are almost a week out.’’
Then he gives three quick examples, one of the Wal-Mart delivery trucks, three trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel. It was docked in Jefferson Parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come and get the fuel right away. When we got there with our trucks, they got the word. FEMA says, `Don’t give the fuel.’ Yesterday, yesterday FEMA comes in and cuts all our communication lines.’’ Why is FEMA cutting communications?
"The guy who runs the building I am in, Emergency Management,’’ this is Aaron Broussard on Meet the Press, "he is responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard Nursing Home, and every day she called him and said, `Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?’ He said, `Yeah, mama, somebody is coming to get you.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Tuesday.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Wednesday.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Thursday.’ `Somebody is coming to get you on Friday.’ And she drowned Friday night.’’
[Time: 18:45]
And she drowned Friday night. "Nobody is coming to get us. Nobody is coming to get us. The Secretary has promised. Everybody has promised. They have had press conferences. I’m sick of the press conferences. For God’s sake, just shut up and send us somebody.’’ Aaron Broussard.
Want the facts? The FEMA chief waited 5 hours after Katrina made landfall on August 29. Five hours.
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McKinney lays out a detailed protest against FEMA response on this page!!!
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Saturday, March 14, 2009
Tuesday, March 10, 2009
The Raw Story | ACLU demands Obama administration release prisoner abuse photos
ACLU demands Obama administration release prisoner abuse photos
The ACLU's ongoing FOIA lawsuits have compelled the release of more than 100,000 pages of documents, including memos authorizing CIA torture.
At issue are 87 photographs the ACLU believed were taken by members of the military at facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan, including the Abu Ghraib prison that became synonymous with US abuses after humiliating photos from there first appeared in the New Yorker in early 2004.
Although the government stopped trying to fight the full release of Abu Ghraib photos after they all were independently published in 2006, the ACLU says the Pentagon continues to keep hidden 29 additional images from at least seven different locations in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Bush administration claimed that making additional photos public would "generate outrage and would violate U.S. obligations towards detainees under the Geneva Conventions," the ACLU noted in its statement.
The ACLU's ongoing FOIA lawsuits have compelled the release of more than 100,000 pages of documents, including memos authorizing CIA torture.
At issue are 87 photographs the ACLU believed were taken by members of the military at facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan, including the Abu Ghraib prison that became synonymous with US abuses after humiliating photos from there first appeared in the New Yorker in early 2004.
Although the government stopped trying to fight the full release of Abu Ghraib photos after they all were independently published in 2006, the ACLU says the Pentagon continues to keep hidden 29 additional images from at least seven different locations in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Bush administration claimed that making additional photos public would "generate outrage and would violate U.S. obligations towards detainees under the Geneva Conventions," the ACLU noted in its statement.
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